{"id":94919,"date":"2024-08-18T12:25:01","date_gmt":"2024-08-18T09:25:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/?p=94919"},"modified":"2024-08-19T17:35:54","modified_gmt":"2024-08-19T14:35:54","slug":"optzeci-de-medici-romani-din-franta-mesaj-de-solidarizare-cu-doctoritele-de-la-pantelimon-vorbesc-de-un-impas-terapeutic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/optzeci-de-medici-romani-din-franta-mesaj-de-solidarizare-cu-doctoritele-de-la-pantelimon-vorbesc-de-un-impas-terapeutic\/","title":{"rendered":"83 de medici rom\u00e2ni din Fran\u0163a, mesaj de solidarizare cu doctori\u0163ele de la Pantelimon. Vorbesc de un \u201eimpas terapeutic\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>83 de medici rom\u00e2ni din Fran\u0163a<\/strong>,<strong> care lucreaz\u0103 \u00een sistemul de Terapie Intensiv\u0103, au semnat o scrisoare deschis\u0103, citat\u0103 de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.g4media.ro\/medici-romani-de-ati-care-lucreaza-in-franta-in-apararea-colegelor-de-la-spitalul-sfantul-pantelimon-situatia-cu-care-s-au-confruntat-colegele-noastre-era-una-fara-iesire-se-aflau.html?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=medici-romani-de-ati-care-lucreaza-in-franta-in-apararea-colegelor-de-la-spitalul-sfantul-pantelimon-situatia-cu-care-s-au-confruntat-colegele-noastre-era-una-fara-iesire-se-aflau\">G4Media<\/a>, prin care se solidarizeaz\u0103 cu doctori\u0163ele de la Sf\u00e2ntul Pantelimon care sunt acuzate de omor calificat cu premeditare. Doctorii care lucreaz\u0103 \u00een Hexagon au scris c\u0103 \u201eeste un fel de \u00ab\u015fah mat\u00bb \u00een medicin\u0103, c\u00e2nd orice ai face nu mai exist\u0103 o solu\u0163ie bun\u0103\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cheia \u00een\u0163elegerii acestei situa\u0163ii nu se reg\u0103se\u015fte \u00een doza de noradrenalin\u0103, spun doctorii cita\u0163i. Ei vorbesc de un \u201eimpas terapeutic\u201d. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pentru cei care nu cunosc termenii medicali, starea de \u00ab\u015foc refractar\u00bb \u00eenseamn\u0103 o stare de hipotensiune profund\u0103 \u015fi prelungit\u0103, care nu mai r\u0103spunde la doze din ce \u00een ce mai mari de noradrenalin\u0103. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nu mai exist\u0103 solu\u0163ie la aceasta situa\u0163ie \u015fi deznod\u0103m\u00e2ntul inevitabil este decesul, oricare ar fi doza de noradrenalin\u0103, mare sau mic\u0103<\/strong>. (&#8230;) <strong>continuarea tratamentelor invazive \u015fi agresive devine nu doar inutil\u0103, ci nu face dec\u00e2t s\u0103 prelungeasc\u0103 suferin\u0163a bolnavului \u015fi a familiei sale, f\u0103r\u0103 a avea nicio speran\u0163\u0103 de recuperare sau de vindecare<\/strong><\/p>\n<cite>mesaj medici rom\u00e2ni fran\u0163a<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cei 83 de medici rom\u00e2ni din Fran\u0163a spun c\u0103 la noi este un \u201evid legislativ\u201d \u00een ceea ce prive\u015fte situa\u0163iile de tipul celei anchetate acum de procurori. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ei adaug\u0103 c\u0103, \u00een Fran\u0163a \u00een particular \u015fi \u00een Europa \u00een general, spre deosebire de Rom\u00e2nia, aceast\u0103 situa\u0163ie legat\u0103 de sf\u00e2r\u015fitul vie\u0163ii \u00een sec\u0163iile de reanimare este riguros reglementat\u0103 \u015fi face parte din conceptul de \u201elimitare terapeutic\u0103\u201d; aceast\u0103 practic\u0103 se aplic\u0103 pacien\u0163ilor \u00een stare terminal\u0103, considera\u0163i f\u0103r\u0103 perspective de supravie\u0163uire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Vidul legislativ a f\u0103cut posibil\u0103 tragedia de la Spitalul \u00abSf. Pantelimon\u00bb. \u015ei c\u00e2nd spunem tragedie, \u00een\u0163elegem \u015fi durerea familiilor care au r\u0103mas cu impresia c\u0103 nu s-a f\u0103cut tot posibilul pentru apropia\u0163ii lor, dar \u015fi cea a medicilor implica\u0163i, care, de\u015fi au avut sentimentul c\u0103 procedeaz\u0103 corect \u015fi c\u0103 au ac\u0163ionat \u00een interesul pacien\u0163ilor, acum sunt ostraciza\u0163i \u015fi trata\u0163i precum criminali de drept comun. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00cen calitate de medici ATI, ne exprim\u0103m speran\u0163a c\u0103 acest caz al medicilor de la Spitalul \u00abSf. Pantelimon\u00bb s\u0103 fie \u00eencredin\u0163at exper\u0163ilor, care pot s\u0103 judece impar\u0163ial ce s-a petrecut cu adev\u0103rat acolo. Sper\u0103m, de asemenea, s\u0103 fie punctul de plecare pentru definirea unui cadru legal \u00een Rom\u00e2nia care s\u0103 stabileasc\u0103 regulile de func\u0163ionare \u00een astfel de situa\u0163ii. <\/strong><\/p>\n<cite>mesaj medici rom\u00e2ni fran\u0163a<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>CITE\u015eTE \u015eI:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/spitalul-sri-preia-chirurgia-vasculara-de-la-sf-pantelimon-din-septembrie\/\"><strong>Spitalul SRI preia chirurgia vascular\u0103 de la \u201eSf. Pantelimon\u201d, din septembrie<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-83-de-medici-romani-din-franta-despre-indarjirea-terapeutica\">83 de medici rom\u00e2ni din Fran\u0163a, despre \u201e\u00eend\u00e2rjirea terapeutic\u0103\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Astfel, ei dau exemplul Fran\u0163ei, unde \u201einsisten\u0163a\u201d de a administra un tratament atunci c\u00e2nd nu mai exist\u0103 \u015fanse de supravie\u0163uire poart\u0103 numele de \u201e\u00eend\u00e2rjire terapeutic\u0103\u201d (\u201cobstination d\u00e9raisonnable\u201d sau \u201cacharnement th\u00e9rapeutique\u201d, legea Leonetti din 2005) \u015fi este sanc\u0163ionat\u0103 prin lege ca o practic\u0103 medical\u0103 neadaptat\u0103 situa\u0163iei, care aduce atingere demnit\u0103\u0163ii pacientului respectiv.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Semnatarii scrisorii afirm\u0103 c\u0103 nu au \u201dpreten\u0163ia de a face lumin\u0103 \u00een acest caz\u201d, dar prezint\u0103 elemente care s\u0103 contribuie la o mai bun\u0103 \u00een\u0163elegere a ceea ce presupune reanimarea \u015fi cadrul legal \u00een care se desf\u0103\u015foar\u0103 \u00eengrijirile din faza terminal\u0103 \u00een reanim\u0103rile din Fran\u0163a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Toate argumentele lor pot fi citite \u00een <a href=\"https:\/\/www.g4media.ro\/medici-romani-de-ati-care-lucreaza-in-franta-in-apararea-colegelor-de-la-spitalul-sfantul-pantelimon-situatia-cu-care-s-au-confruntat-colegele-noastre-era-una-fara-iesire-se-aflau.html?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=medici-romani-de-ati-care-lucreaza-in-franta-in-apararea-colegelor-de-la-spitalul-sfantul-pantelimon-situatia-cu-care-s-au-confruntat-colegele-noastre-era-una-fara-iesire-se-aflau\">articolul G4Media<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-un-alt-punct-de-vedere\">Un alt punct de vedere<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00cen vreme ce ATI-i\u015ftii din Fran\u0163a spun c\u0103 doctori\u0163ele de la Pantelimon erau \u00eentr-o situa\u0163ie f\u0103r\u0103 ie\u015fire, medicii legi\u015fti din Rom\u00e2nia atrag aten\u0163ia c\u0103 doctorii sunt datori s\u0103 fac\u0103 totul pentru a prelungi via\u0163a unui pacient, fie \u015fi pentru o scurt\u0103 perioad\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Unul din scopurile principale ale medicinei este men\u021binerea \u00een via\u021b\u0103, c\u00e2t mai mult timp, a pacientului, chiar dac\u0103 acesta nu are \u0219anse de recuperare. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Prin urmare,\u00a0<strong>sc\u0103derea duratei de via\u021b\u0103 a unei persoane, chiar \u0219i extrem de limitat\u0103, dac\u0103 este o consecin\u021b\u0103 a unei fapte ilicite, trebuie s\u0103 fie considerat\u0103 prejudiciu (efect) \u00een lan\u021bul cauzal<\/strong><\/p>\n<cite>consiliul medicilor legi\u015fti<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Leg\u0103tura dintre sc\u0103derea dozei de noradrenalin\u0103 \u015fi decesul pacientului este aproape f\u0103r\u0103 echivoc \u00een ochii doctorilor care au anchetat prin prisma meseriei lor de legi\u015fti acest caz:\u00a0<em>pacientul a fost internat pe sec\u021bia ATI timp de 10 zile, cu suport vasopresor (noradrenalin\u0103), fiind men\u021binut \u00een via\u021b\u0103. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>La circa 1 or\u0103 dup\u0103 sc\u0103derea brutal\u0103 a dozei de noradrenalin\u0103, s-a produs decesul. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Probabilitatea ca decesul s\u0103 se fi produs datorit\u0103 st\u0103rii alterate a pacientului, \u00een cazul \u00een care suportul vasopresor ar fi fost men\u021binut, se poate estima \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bind num\u0103rul de ore \u00een care a fost privat de suport vasopresor la num\u0103rul total de ore \u00een care ar fi necesitat acest suport, calcul care duce la\u00a0<strong>o probabilitate de circa 0,4%<\/strong>. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Prin urmare,\u00a0<strong>probabilitatea ca decesul s\u0103 se fi produs \u00een momentul la care s-a produs, datorit\u0103 sc\u0103derii dozei de noradrenalin\u0103 este de peste 99%<\/strong>, chiar dac\u0103 ar fi s\u0103 lu\u0103m \u00een considerare o agravare progresiv\u0103 a st\u0103rii pacientului \u00een cursul spitaliz\u0103rii pe sec\u021bia de ATI.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>CITE\u015eTE \u015eI:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/consiliul-medicilor-legisti-decesul-pacientului-de-la-sf-pantelimon-legat-99-de-scaderea-brusca-a-dozei-de-noradrenalina\/\"><strong>Consiliul Medicilor Legi\u015fti: Decesul pacientului de la Sf. Pantelimon, legat 99% de sc\u0103derea brusc\u0103 a dozei de noradrenalin\u0103<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V\u0103 reamintim, 17 pacien\u0163i au murit, \u00een sec\u0163ia ATI a Spitalului \u201eSf\u00e2ntul Pantelimon\u201d din Bucure\u015fti, \u00eentr-un interval de patru zile, exist\u00e2nd acuza\u0163ii c\u0103 acest lucru s-a produs din cauza sc\u0103derii dozei de noradrenalin\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Procurorii au instrumentat un dosar privind decesul unui pacient de 54 de ani, doi medici fiind acuza\u0163i de omor calificat cu premeditare.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>83 de medici rom\u00e2ni din Fran\u0163a, care lucreaz\u0103 \u00een sistemul de Terapie Intensiv\u0103, au semnat o scrisoare deschis\u0103, citat\u0103 de G4Media, prin care se solidarizeaz\u0103 cu doctori\u0163ele de la Sf\u00e2ntul Pantelimon care sunt acuzate de omor calificat cu premeditare. 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