{"id":83219,"date":"2024-04-19T06:27:36","date_gmt":"2024-04-19T03:27:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/?p=83219"},"modified":"2024-04-19T18:55:23","modified_gmt":"2024-04-19T15:55:23","slug":"interviu-mai-exista-demos-claudiu-craciun-si-ionut-tudor-despre-posibila-candidatura-a-stangii-progresiste-la-cgmb","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/interviu-mai-exista-demos-claudiu-craciun-si-ionut-tudor-despre-posibila-candidatura-a-stangii-progresiste-la-cgmb\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERVIU | \u201eMai exist\u0103 Demos?\u201d \u2013 Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun \u0219i Ionu\u021b Tudor despre posibila candidatur\u0103 a \u201est\u00e2ngii progresiste\u201d la CGMB"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Demos \u2013 Partidul Democra\u021biei \u0219i Solidarit\u0103\u021bii, despre care unii sus\u021bin c\u0103 este o alternativ\u0103 pentru PSD, a fost \u00eenregistrat \u00een 2018 \u00eens\u0103 nu a ajuns, p\u00e2n\u0103 acum, pe niciun buletin de vot. \u201eMai exist\u0103 Demos?\u201d, este \u00eentrebarea care se ridic\u0103 la aproape patru ani de c\u00e2nd partidul nu a reu\u0219it s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 num\u0103rul de semn\u0103turi minimum cerut de legea electoral\u0103. Se pare c\u0103 da, exist\u0103, \u0219i membrii au \u201er\u0103mas pe baricade\u201d, \u00een ciuda vizibilit\u0103\u021bii reduse din spa\u021biul public. Acum se afl\u0103 \u00een plin proces de str\u00e2ns semn\u0103turi pentru validarea <a href=\"https:\/\/demos.org.ro\/program-politic-bucuresti-2024\/\">candidaturilor la Consiliul General al Municipiului Bucure\u0219ti.\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen urm\u0103 cu patru ani, tot pentru CGMB, membrii Demos au str\u00e2ns pu\u021bin peste 1.000 din cele 9.100 de semn\u0103turi necesare. \u00cen 2024, totul ar merge mult mai bine, potrivit reprezentan\u021bilor partidului: <em>\u201epopula\u021bia chiar simte nevoie unei st\u00e2ngi progresiste<\/em>\u201d. Secretarul general Demos, Ionu\u021b Tudor, spune c\u0103 membrii sunt <em>\u201eextraordinar de optimi\u0219ti\u201d<\/em> cu privire la perspective \u0219i simt un \u201ev\u00e2nt consistent \u0219i semnificativ al schimb\u0103rii\u201d \u00een societatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103. Ace\u0219tia \u0219i-au lansat <a href=\"https:\/\/demos.org.ro\/program-politic-bucuresti-2024\/\">programul politic pentru Bucure\u0219ti <\/a>\u0219i acum au reluat procesul tradi\u021bional \u201ede fug\u0103\u201d dup\u0103 semn\u0103turi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-900x675.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-83234 lazyload\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-900x675.jpg 900w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-1600x1200.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-1100x825.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17-20x15.jpg 20w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/Imagine-WhatsApp-2024-02-09-la-13.49.13_fa5184f1-17.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ionu\u021b Tudor \u0219i Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun, surs\u0103: Demos Bucure\u0219ti, 2021<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Ghimpele din coast\u0103<\/strong> &#8211; semn\u0103turile<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201eDac\u0103 am avea \u0219i semn\u0103turi\u2026\u00een loc s\u0103 ne lupt\u0103m pentru idei \u0219i programe \u0219i s\u0103 intr\u0103m \u00een dezbateri, cu asta ne ocup\u0103m timpul. \u00cen loc s\u0103 facem ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 politic\u0103: s\u0103 vorbim cu oameni, dezbateri, scandaluri, mici proteste, evenimente. Nu. Noi str\u00e2ngem semn\u0103turi. Noi \u0219i al\u021bii,\u201d <\/em>a spus Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun, purt\u0103torul de cuv\u00e2nt Demos, pentru Buletin de Bucure\u0219ti.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Despre minimul de semn\u0103turi necesar impus de legisla\u021bia din Rom\u00e2nia pentru ca un partid s\u0103 poat\u0103 intra \u00een ringul electoral s-au pronun\u021bat mai mul\u021bi politicieni, de-a lungul anilor. Recent au vorbit public cei de la<a href=\"https:\/\/demos.org.ro\/2019\/02\/11\/doar-in-romania-se-cer-200-000-de-semnaturi\/\"> Demos<\/a> \u0219i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Romania\/comments\/1bp7b2n\/pragul_de_200000_de_semn%C4%83turi_omoar%C4%83_democra%C8%9Bia\/\">Dacian Ciolo\u0219<\/a>, din partea Reper, despre cum pragul foarte ridicat atenteaz\u0103 la pluralismul democratic. \u00cen 2019 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dw.com\/ro\/alegeri-in-absurdistan-toata-lumea-stie-ca-se-falsifica-listele-cu-sute-de-mii-de-semnaturi-dar-nimeni-nu-face-nimic-ziarecom\/a-47959148\">mai mul\u021bi membrii USR<\/a> spuneau cum partidele mari ajung s\u0103 falsifice semn\u0103turi, partide care oricum str\u00e2ng mult mai u\u0219or num\u0103rul de oameni necesari. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hotnews.ro\/stiri-politic-21340020-uniunea-salvati-romania-strand-pana-acu-90-000-semnaturi-pentru-inscrierea-alegerile-parlamentare-dintre-cele-200-000-necesare-anuntat-sambata-alexandria-vicepresedintele-formatiunii-clotilde-armand-c.htm\">\u00cen 2016<\/a>, Clotilde Armand semnala aceea\u0219i problem\u0103, spun\u00e2n c\u0103, personal, consider\u0103 pragul de semn\u0103turi neconstitu\u021bional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201eDac\u0103 ne uit\u0103m pe ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 depunerea candidaturilor,&nbsp;Rom\u00e2nia are probabil cea mai prohibitiv\u0103 legisla\u021bie. \u00centr adev\u0103r, mai exist\u0103 \u00een Danemarca un prag \u0219i mai prohibitiv. Dar altfel suntem pe departe \u021bara cu cele mai grele condi\u021bii de a depune candidaturi,\u201d <\/em>a declarat Septimus P\u00e2rvu, de la Expert Forum, citat de <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rfi.fr\/ro\/rom%C3%A2nia\/20240415-expert-forum-rom%C3%A2nia-%C8%9Bara-cu-cele-mai-grele-condi%C8%9Bii-de-depunere-a-candidaturilor\">RFI<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Buletin de Bucure\u0219ti a vorbit at\u00e2t cu purt\u0103torul de cuv\u00e2nt al partidului, Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun, candidatul la preziden\u021biale din partea Demos \u00een 2019, dar \u0219i cu Ionu\u021b Tudor, secretarul general al forma\u021biunii politice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2020-2024<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Din 2020, de la ultima tentativ\u0103 de str\u00e2ngere de semn\u0103turi, prezen\u021ba mediatic\u0103 a partidului a sc\u0103zut foarte mult. Reprezentan\u021bii Demos pun acest lucru \u00een mare parte pe seama faptului c\u0103 pagina lor de Facebook, platforma pe care au folosit-o cel mai mult pentru campanie, a disp\u0103rut \u0219i, o dat\u0103 cu ea, cei 25.000 de urm\u0103ritori pe care \u00eei aveau. Ionu\u021b Tudor adaug\u0103 c\u0103 nu a ajutat faptul c\u0103 a existat \u201e<em>o letargie la nivelul societ\u0103\u021bii cu privire la ini\u021biativele politice<\/em>\u201d, creat\u0103 de contextul pandemic de la vremea respectiv\u0103:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ionu\u021b Tudor<\/strong>: <em>\u00cen pandemie, oamenii numai de politic\u0103 n-au avut chef s\u0103 se ocupe. Tot din cauza restric\u021biilor din vremea pandemiei, era complicat s\u0103 faci activit\u0103\u021bile recurente pe care le face un partid politic astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 genereze, s\u0103 g\u00e2ndeasc\u0103, alternative politice. Nu a \u021binut neap\u0103rat de o problem\u0103 la nivelul Demos, noi am r\u0103mas pe baricade, adic\u0103 nu am disp\u0103rut nic\u0103ieri.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciu:<\/strong> <em>Am disp\u0103rut pentru c\u0103 ne-a disp\u0103rut pagina. P\u0103rerea mea e c\u0103 a fost totu\u0219i victima unui atac informatic. Noi aveam o pagin\u0103 de 25.000 de urm\u0103ritori organic, care ne-a disp\u0103rut \u00een 2021 \u0219i nu am mai putut s\u0103 o recuper\u0103m. Noi am investit tot \u00een activitatea de comunicare pe Facebook \u0219i ne-a ajutat, dar a disp\u0103rut. Acum avem o pagin\u0103 de 2000 de persoane. Nu e prima oar\u0103 c\u00e2nd ni se spune asta <\/em><strong><em>(n.r<\/em><\/strong><em>.: c\u0103 au \u201edisp\u0103rut\u201d din mediul public) \u0219i suntem foarte sup\u0103ra\u021bi, dar nu avem ce s\u0103 facem. Pariezi pe o platform\u0103 \u0219i iat\u0103 c\u0103 ai surprizele astea. (&#8230;) Partidul merge mai departe. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, n-am mai fost at\u00e2t de vizibil, dar noi exist\u0103m \u00een continuare. Avem o sut\u0103 de membri \u00eenscri\u0219i, alte c\u00e2teva sute de simpatizan\u021bi, deci mergem mai departe.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Str\u00e2ngerea de semn\u0103turi, varianta 2024<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Str\u00e2ngerea de semn\u0103turi are loc, preponderent, \u00een weekendu-uri pe Calea Victoriei. Membrii Demos spun c\u0103 evenimentul Str\u0103zi Deschise creaz\u0103 o oportunitate de a <em>\u201esim\u021bi \u0219i vedea ora\u0219ul\u201d<\/em> \u0219i de a \u201e<em>aduce oamenii la un loc<\/em>\u201d \u2013 <em>\u201epare c\u0103 rena\u0219te ora\u0219ul, c\u00e2nd vezi at\u00e2\u021bia oameni la un loc, interac\u021bion\u00e2nd, inclusiv pentru politic\u0103,\u201d <\/em>spune Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cum merge str\u00e2ngerea de semn\u0103turi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ionu\u021b Tudor:<\/strong> <em>Merge foarte bine. Suntem extraordinaride optimi\u0219ti pentru c\u0103, \u00een primul r\u00e2nd, strategia pe care am creionat-o este una pragmatic \u0219i fezabil\u0103, \u0219i a fost depus un efort sus\u021binut din partea tuturor celor implica\u021bi. Avem sus\u021binere direct\u0103 din partea mai multor organiza\u021bii, de la sindicate, ONG-uri, asocia\u021bii \u0219i a\u0219a mai departe, care ne ofer\u0103 un ajutor informal pentru str\u00e2ngerea semn\u0103turilor, care vin constant.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun:<\/strong><em> Ne mergem mult mai u\u0219or ca \u00een 2020. Eu pun asta pe seama faptului c\u0103 nu mai e pandemie, e frumos afar\u0103 \u0219i, \u00een plus, nu suntem numai noi cei care str\u00e2ngem semn\u0103turi, adic\u0103 sunt mai multe partide \u0219i candida\u021bi \u0219i independen\u021bi care str\u00e2ng semn\u0103turi. (&#8230;) O prim\u0103 categorie de oameni care semneaz\u0103 sunt cei vor s\u0103 vad\u0103 mai multe partide \u0219i mai mul\u021bi candida\u021bi \u00een curs\u0103 \u0219i \u00een\u021beleg aceast\u0103 idee democratic\u0103 de baz\u0103, c\u0103 dac\u0103 nu ai pluralism \u0219i competi\u021bie, nu ai democra\u021bie, \u0219i \u0103sta e un lucru \u00eembucur\u0103tor<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"900\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-900x900.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-83239 lazyload\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-900x900.jpg 900w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-1600x1600.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-1100x1100.jpg 1100w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6-20x20.jpg 20w, https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/wp-content\/uploads\/433969390_824023259754116_7753370722061531581_n-6.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">surs\u0103: Demos Bucure\u0219ti, Facebook<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Apolitismul \u0219i \u201epublicul \u021bint\u0103\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Astfel, pe Calea Victoriei, membrii Demos stau de vorb\u0103 cu oamenii care vor s\u0103-i sus\u021bin\u0103, care nu sunt \u00eenc\u0103 deci\u0219i sau care au orice fel de \u00eentrebare \u0219i vor s\u0103 poarte o discu\u021bie sau o dezbatere: <em>\u201eChiar avem discu\u021bii serioase\u201d<\/em>, spune Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Acesta adaug\u0103 c\u0103 exist\u0103 fel \u0219i fel de persoane. \u00cen timp ce o persoan\u0103 \u201emai tradi\u021bionalist\u0103\u201d semneaz\u0103 pentru c\u0103 vrea s\u0103 sus\u021bin\u0103 pluralitatea de opinii din mediul politic, unele persoane care s-ar potrivit profilului partidului <em>\u201enu semneaz\u0103 pentru c\u0103 sunt dezam\u0103gi\u021bi\u201d<\/em>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun:<\/strong> <em>Este un r\u0103spuns pe care \u00eel primim des: &lt;&lt;sunt apolitic&gt;&gt; \u0219i cu asta te po\u021bi lupta foarte greu, pentru c\u0103 nu ai dec\u00e2t 5-10 secunde pentru o interac\u021biune. Eu la facultate vorbesc despre apolitism c\u00e2te un semestru \u00eentreg. Pe strad\u0103, c\u00e2t po\u021bi s\u0103 faci? Dar cel mai bun mesaj este faptul c\u0103 e\u0219ti acolo printre oameni, c\u0103 vorbe\u0219ti\u2026 chiar \u0219i gestul de a semna este un antidot la apolitism.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cui se adreseaz\u0103 platforma Demos<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ionu\u021b Tudor: <\/strong><em>Vedem o schimbare la nivelul societ\u0103\u021bii, \u00een sensul c\u0103 este nevoie de a contrabalansa aceast\u0103 cre\u0219tere a partidelor \u0219i a alian\u021belor de dreapta. <strong>Spectrul st\u00e2ngii, \u00een special o st\u00e2nga progresist\u0103, pro-european\u0103, lipse\u0219te cu des\u0103v\u00e2r\u0219ire \u00een Rom\u00e2nia. <\/strong>A pune problema unui \u201epublic \u021bint\u0103\u201d \u00eenseamn\u0103 a opera cu un soi de reduc\u021bionism de care nu cred c\u0103 e cazul. Noi suntem un partid generalist: toate m\u0103surile pe care noi le-am g\u00e2ndit prin programul politic, \u00eenc\u0103 de la \u00eenceput din 2016, vizeaz\u0103 toate categoriile de persoane.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Exist\u0103 un av\u00e2nt consistent \u0219i semnificativ al schimb\u0103rii. De pild\u0103, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/library.fes.de\/pdf-files\/bueros\/bukarest\/19247.pdf\"><em>un studiu al FES (Friedrich-Ebert-Stiftung<\/em>)<\/a> <em>cu privire la valorile progresiste din societatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103. Constat\u0103m faptul c\u0103 mai bine de jum\u0103tate dintre rom\u00e2ni, \u00eentreba\u021bi cu privire la valorile lor, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fie nominalizate ca fiind &lt;&lt;de st\u00e2nga&gt;&gt; sau &lt;&lt;de dreapta&gt;&gt;, indic\u0103 faptul c\u0103 doresc protec\u021bie social\u0103, doresc un stat puternic, doresc stat social, sunt mai toleran\u021bi dec\u00e2t pare la prima vedere; adic\u0103 valori ale st\u00e2ngii moderne, progresiste, la care noi ader\u0103m(&#8230;) societatea dore\u0219te o contrabalansare a individualismului, a unor politici dominate doar de ideea de a face economia \u201es\u0103 fie bine\u201d; dar oamenii? Sacrific\u0103m oamenii invoc\u00e2nd economia. Am f\u0103cut acest lucru mult timp \u0219i au plecat milioane de rom\u00e2ni din \u021bar\u0103.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Demos \u00een CGMB<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Reprezentan\u021bii Demos sus\u021bin c\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i doresc s\u0103 vin\u0103 cu solu\u021bii inovative la problemele moderne \u0219i dinamice ale prezentului: <em>\u201eTrebuie s\u0103 recunoa\u0219tem c\u0103 societatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103 duce lips\u0103 de imagina\u021bie politic\u0103, baz\u00e2ndu-se pe ni\u0219te solu\u021bii \u00eenvechite<\/em>\u201d, spune secretarul general.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun:<\/strong> <em>Pentru noi, pariul acestor alegeri locale este s\u0103 ne adres\u0103m acestor probabil 2 milioane de persoane (<strong>n.r.<\/strong>: popula\u021bia cu drept de vot, cei f\u0103r\u0103 viz\u0103 de flotant, locuitorii Ilfovului lega\u021bi de Bucure\u0219ti) cu un program politic care trece de \u021bevi, borduri, infrastructuri. Administra\u021bia local\u0103 este \u00eenc\u0103 \u00een paradigma asta.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun sus\u021bine c\u0103 autorit\u0103\u021bile locale <em>\u201eori se fac c\u0103 nu au responsabilit\u0103\u021bi, ori nu \u0219i-au dezvoltat re\u021belele\u201d<\/em> necesare pentru implementarea unor politici \u00eendreptate c\u0103tre comunitate. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciu:<\/strong><\/em> <em>Vrem s\u0103 intr\u0103m foarte dur \u00een ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 politic\u0103 social\u0103. Aici, de fapt, autorit\u0103\u021bile locale vor s\u0103 scape de responsabilit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i subcontracteaz\u0103, c\u0103tre entit\u0103\u021bi private, iar pe drum se pierde responsabilitatea \u0219i protec\u021bia persoanelor vulnerabile. Vezi \u201eazilele groazei\u201d. \u0218i pe noi ne doare mult acest lucru.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Care este strategia pentru a v\u0103 impune \u00een \u0219edin\u021bele de Consiliu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciu:<\/strong> <em>Dac\u0103 intri \u00een Consiliu ai acolo un vot, ai o voce, po\u021bi s\u0103 promovezi ni\u0219te proiecte. <strong>Nu cred c\u0103 un primar, orice primar ar fi el, poate s\u0103-\u021bi refuze, \u00een patru ani de mandat, chiar tot.<\/strong> Mi-e greu s\u0103 cred asta. Adic\u0103 nu cred c\u0103 e nimeni at\u00e2t de absurd \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 refuze ni\u0219te idei bune, cu ni\u0219te avantaje clare pentru ni\u0219te oameni, pentru s\u0103n\u0103tate sau pentru traiul oamenilor \u00een comun. <strong>Ne baz\u0103m pe ra\u021bionalitatea primarilor, oricare ar fi ei.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><strong>Ionu\u021b Tudor:<\/strong><\/strong> <em>Nu venim cu SF-uri, nu sunt lucruri pe care le-am inventat noi. Ne racord\u0103m foarte puternic la spa\u021biul vest-european, vedem tendin\u021bele de acolo \u0219i modul \u00een care au func\u021bionat acolo anumite lucruri, pe care le adapt\u0103m \u00een func\u021bie de specificul rom\u00e2nesc. Programul pentru Bucure\u0219ti este unul adaptat, coerent \u0219i solid.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere aceste aspecte, coroborat cu faptul c\u0103 urm\u0103rim interesul general, pentru c\u0103 aceasta este prioritatea zero, faptul a servi interesul general, tind s\u0103 cred c\u0103 suntem ni\u0219te persoane care vor putea, prin dialog \u0219i diploma\u021bie, s\u0103 sus\u021binem idei care s\u0103 fie \u00eembr\u0103\u021bi\u0219ate \u0219i de alte persoane din alte forma\u021biuni politice, dincolo de adeziuni ideologice sau considerente personale<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Colaborarea cu alte partide<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Membrii Demos vor vota orice proiect bun, indiferent de partidul care l-a propus \u0219i sus\u021binut, sus\u021bin cei doi reprezentan\u021bi. De asemenea, partidul este deschis <em>\u201ecolabor\u0103rii punctuale\u201d<\/em> cu orice partid, at\u00e2ta timp c\u00e2t respect\u0103 criteriile pe care le impune propriilor membrii: <em>\u201eDac\u0103 noi intern am stabilit aceste criterii v\u0103 da\u021bi seama c\u0103 orice \u00een\u021belegere posibil\u0103 cu o alt\u0103 forma\u021bie politic\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 se \u00eencadreze \u00een ace\u0219ti parametri, de la care nu vom face rabat<\/em>\u201d, spune secretarul general Ionu\u021b Tudor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Printre aceste criterii se num\u0103r\u0103 absen\u021ba problemelor de integritate, lipsa condamn\u0103rilor la Consiliul Na\u021bional pentru Combaterea Discrimin\u0103rii, s\u0103 nu fii participat \u00een activit\u0103\u021bi cu servicii secrete \u0219i<em> \u201enu mai spun de fapte de corup\u021bie<\/em>,<em> o limit\u0103 de care nu se poate trece\u201d<\/em> adaug\u0103 secretarul general al partidului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Diferen\u021ba dintre PSD \u0219i Demos<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ionu\u021b Tudor:<\/strong> <em>\u00cen media, ideile de st\u00e2nga sunt privite cu dezinteres, v\u0103zute, poate, ca o emana\u021bie a PSD-ului sau provenind din ni\u0219te surse \u00eendoielnice precum Rusia, \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care noi revendic\u0103m spa\u021biul european f\u0103r\u0103 absolut nicio reticen\u021b\u0103, dar cu specificitate rom\u00e2neasc\u0103.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Claudiu Cr\u0103ciun:<\/strong> <em>C\u00e2te ore ave\u021bi la dispozi\u021bie? (r\u00e2de) P\u0103rerea noastr\u0103 este c\u0103 PSD-ul, \u00een ciuda puterii \u0219i a for\u021bei pe care o are,&nbsp;nu \u0219i-a \u00eendeplinit rolul istoric pe care-l avea \u00een timpul tranzi\u021biei, \u0219i anume s\u0103 protejeze cu adev\u0103rat categoriile cele mai vulnerabile s\u0103 creeze o politic\u0103 social\u0103 real\u0103 \u00een Rom\u00e2nia \u0219i s\u0103 ofere \u0219i instrumentele economice pentru o societate mai echitabil\u0103. Aveau puterea asta. \u00cenc\u0103 o au, \u0219i nu o fac. De ce nu o fac? Nu \u0219tiu. Ar trebui iar\u0103\u0219i ni\u0219te ani de cercetare s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 la \u00eentrebarea asta.<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Este un mare e\u0219ec. Cu toate c\u0103 PSD-ul a fost \u0219i r\u0103m\u00e2ne cel mai mare partid din Rom\u00e2nia, avem cea mai mare migra\u021bie din Europa, dintr-o \u021bar\u0103 care nu este \u00een r\u0103zboi. Ce ne spune asta despre un partid de st\u00e2nga care a fost la guvernare dou\u0103 treimi din perioada asta?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Scurt istoric<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Platforma Demos a fost \u00eenfiin\u021bat\u0103 \u00een 2015, \u0219i-a lansat Manifestul \u00een 2016 \u0219i \u00een 2018 \u0219i-a \u00eenregistrat un partid, Partidul Demos. Acesta este <em>\u201eun nou partid cu orientare de centru st\u00e2nga, progresist\u0103 \u0219i ecologist\u0103\u201d<\/em>,spune Cr\u0103ciun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aceasta ar fi a patra tentativ\u0103 a partidului de a a atinge pragul necesar de semn\u0103turi pentru validarea candidaturii. 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