{"id":118615,"date":"2025-02-16T14:49:25","date_gmt":"2025-02-16T11:49:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/?p=118615"},"modified":"2025-06-07T15:04:24","modified_gmt":"2025-06-07T12:04:24","slug":"cafeneaua-bdb-solutia-radicala-aplicata-in-copenhaga-impotriva-traficului-care-ar-declansa-revolta-in-bucuresti-eliminarea-locurilor-de-parcare-din-centru","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buletin.de\/bucuresti\/cafeneaua-bdb-solutia-radicala-aplicata-in-copenhaga-impotriva-traficului-care-ar-declansa-revolta-in-bucuresti-eliminarea-locurilor-de-parcare-din-centru\/","title":{"rendered":"CAFENEAUA BdB | Solu\u021bia radical\u0103 aplicat\u0103 \u00een Copenhaga \u00eempotriva traficului, care ar declan\u0219a revolt\u0103 \u00een Bucure\u0219ti: eliminarea locurilor de parcare din centru"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Traficul consistent \u0219i neplanificat din Bucure\u0219ti, cl\u0103dirile sale mari \u0219i brutale, dar \u0219i \u00eenc\u0103lzirea excesiv\u0103 a spa\u021biilor interioare sunt primele lucruri pe care le-a observat Jacob Hartmann, consilier municipal \u00een Copenhaga \u0219i activist specializat \u00een dezvoltare durabil\u0103, atunci c\u00e2nd a ajuns \u00een Capitala Rom\u00e2niei. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jacob Harmann s-a \u00eent\u00e2lnit cu publicul rom\u00e2n, \u00een cadrul Nordic Festival<\/a>, \u0219i a vorbit despre rolul s\u0103u \u00een cadrul Prim\u0103riei din Copenhaga, de mediator \u00eentre municipalitate \u0219i locuitorii capitalei daneze, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t cet\u0103\u021benii s\u0103 participe activ la crearea unui ora\u0219 prietenos cu oamenii. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Consilierul municipal a explicat, \u00een interviul acordat Buletin de Bucure\u0219ti, solu\u021biile pe care Prim\u0103ria Copenhaga le-a implementat pentru a sc\u0103dea traficul \u00een centru, solu\u021bii radicale, care probabil ar fi primite cu revolt\u0103 de bucure\u0219teni. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am vorbit despre proiectele pe care le implementeaz\u0103, despre birocra\u021bia din Danemarca, despre deschiderea Prim\u0103riei fa\u021b\u0103 de colaborarea cu cet\u0103\u021benii, despre politicile de mediu, \u00een contextul direc\u021biei anun\u021bate de Trump \u00een SUA, despre cl\u0103dirile de patrimoniu \u0219i despre reciclare. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Copenhaga s-a clasat pe locul doi \u00een lume \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te calitatea vie\u021bii \u00een ora\u0219, \u00een clasamentul anual al The Economist, care analizeaz\u0103 173 de ora\u0219e de pe glob. Bucure\u0219tiul se afl\u0103 abia pe locul 94. Deci, avem ce \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba de la Jacob Hartmann \u0219i de la danezi.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Buletin de Bucure\u0219ti: Sunte\u021bi pentru prima dat\u0103 \u00een Bucure\u0219ti?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jacob Hartmann:<\/strong> Da.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Care a fost prima impresie? De data aceasta, \u00eentrebarea este relevant\u0103 pentru c\u0103 ave\u021bi experien\u021b\u0103 \u00een ceea ce se nume\u0219te \u201elivable City\/ora\u0219 locuibil\u201d<\/a>, de aceea vreau s\u0103 \u0219tiu cum a\u021bi sim\u021bit Bucure\u0219tiul. Este un ora\u0219 locuibil?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nefiltrat, prima mea impresie a fost \u201eOh, este at\u00e2t de cald aici.\u201d Am intrat \u00een aeroport \u0219i era at\u00e2t de cald la interior. Suntem \u00een plin\u0103 iarn\u0103 \u0219i, totu\u0219i, era foarte cald.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A\u0219a c\u0103 mi-am spus: \u201eDac\u0103 este foarte cald \u0219i vezi \u00eenc\u0103lzire electric\u0103 peste tot, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc la energie nuclear\u0103\u201d. \u00cen Danemarca am ales s\u0103 nu avem energie nuclear\u0103. Nu cunosc situa\u021bia de aici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Avem o central\u0103 nuclear\u0103, care ne ofer\u0103 aproximativ 25% din energia electric\u0103. Dar se petrec \u0219i la noi schimb\u0103ri \u00een direc\u021bia energiilor verzi. Renun\u021b\u0103m la centralele pe c\u0103rbune. Cred c\u0103 am \u00eenchis aproape toate minele. Centralele pe baz\u0103 de c\u0103rbune pentru \u00eenc\u0103lzire \u0219i energie electric\u0103 pe care le mai avem sunt utilizate doar \u00een situa\u021bii de urgen\u021b\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apoi am observat, dup\u0103 ce am ie\u0219it din aeroport, aceste cl\u0103diri grele. Nu sunt expert \u00een arhitectur\u0103, dar cred c\u0103 este brutalism. \u0218i atunci \u00een\u021beleg de ce se nume\u0219te brutalism, pentru c\u0103 aceasta sunt ni\u0219te cl\u0103diri mari, p\u0103trate de putere…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Al treilea lucru care mi-a trecut prin minte este c\u0103 am v\u0103zut o mul\u021bime de cl\u0103diri frumoase, dar care au nevoie de o schimbare. Au nevoie de renovare. \u0218i am comparat cu Copenhaga, unde totul este renovat. E at\u00e2t de curat peste tot.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am v\u0103zut poten\u021bialul multor cl\u0103diri foarte, foarte frumoase. Dar am v\u0103zut ni\u0219te cl\u0103diri care sunt pur \u0219i simplu oribile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apoi al patrulea lucru pe care l-am remarcat a fost traficul, mult trafic. Traficul nu este… planificat, g\u00e2ndit. Asta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 toate ma\u0219inile sunt pur \u0219i simplu blocate. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen Copenhaga, \u00eencerc\u0103m s\u0103 sc\u0103p\u0103m de c\u00e2t mai multe ma\u0219ini din ora\u0219. Este greu, pentru c\u0103 oamenii \u00ee\u0219i doresc ma\u0219ini, iubesc ma\u0219inile, dar avem o anumit\u0103 voin\u021b\u0103 politic\u0103 de a impune cu adev\u0103rat solu\u021bii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Una dintre acestea este s\u0103 faci s\u0103 fie scump s\u0103 parchezi \u00een ora\u0219<\/mark>, pentru c\u0103 dac\u0103 iei banii oamenilor prin taxe de parcare, atunci se vor g\u00e2ndi \u00een plus dac\u0103 s\u0103 mai foloseasc\u0103 ma\u0219ina.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen Bucure\u0219ti, am v\u0103zut un \u0219ir mare de ma\u0219ini, \u00een timp ce eram \u0219i eu \u00eentr-o ma\u0219in\u0103. Cred c\u0103 este o nebunie. Peste tot \u00een lume, oamenii \u00ee\u0219i iubesc ma\u0219inile. Dar dac\u0103 le taxezi, po\u021bi rezolva o problem\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apoi m-am plimbat prin ora\u0219 \u0219i am v\u0103zut c\u0103 peste tot este cafea excelent\u0103, este m\u00e2ncare bun\u0103. Deci este \u0219i mult\u0103 via\u021b\u0103, mult\u0103 via\u021b\u0103 cultural\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

CITE\u0218TE \u0218I: Sector 4 | Contract cu ocolirea sistemului de licita\u0163ii online, de aproape 16 milioane de euro, pentru paza institu\u0163iilor<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ce a mai f\u0103cut Copenhaga pentru a convinge popula\u021bia s\u0103 renun\u021be la ma\u0219ini, pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 taxe?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Taxele de parcare cresc, sus, sus, sus. \u0218i am eliminat locurile de parcare<\/mark><\/strong>. \u00cen centrul Copenhag\u0103i, \u00een partea veche a Copenhag\u0103i, am scos locurile de parcare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Iar urm\u0103torul pas, sper\u0103m, va fi s\u0103 facem aceste locuri de parcare mai verzi<\/mark>. \u00cenlocuim parcarea cu verdea\u021b\u0103<\/mark><\/strong>. \u00cenlocuim locurile de parcare cu via\u021ba ora\u0219ului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Astfel, exist\u0103 mai mult spa\u021biu pentru proprietarii de magazine s\u0103 se extind\u0103 \u00een strad\u0103. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Cred c\u0103 acestea sunt principalele instrumente: s\u0103 faci parcarea mai scump\u0103 \u0219i s\u0103 faci parcarea dificil\u0103.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Dar oamenii trebuie s\u0103 mearg\u0103 dintr-un loc \u00een altul.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Avem metroul. \u0218i 90% dintre danezi \u0219i din locuitorii Copenhaga au biciclete. To\u021bi avem biciclete. Iar Copenhaga este un ora\u0219 mic, po\u021bi merge cu u\u0219urin\u021b\u0103 \u00een jum\u0103tate de or\u0103, pe biciclet\u0103, de la un cap\u0103t la altul. A\u0219a c\u0103 \u00eencerc\u0103m cu adev\u0103rat s\u0103 \u00eencuraj\u0103m bicicletele.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Avem piste pentru biciclete. \u0218i nu doar piste \u00eenguste, vorbim despre piste de biciclete cu l\u0103\u021bimea de trei metri. Spa\u021biu pentru o mul\u021bime de biciclete. \u0218i apoi te ui\u021bi la cei trei metri de drum pentru ma\u0219ini, unde ma\u0219inile stau una dup\u0103 alta, cu c\u00e2te o persoan\u0103. Dar pe banda de biciclete \u00eencap \u0219i 15 biciclete. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Transportul \u00een comun este o solu\u021bie?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Desigur, autobuzele sunt acolo, dar glon\u021bul magic pe care \u00eel avem este metroul, pe care \u00eencerc\u0103m constant s\u0103 \u00eel extindem.<\/strong> Este foarte scump, dar… Continu\u0103m s\u0103 g\u0103sim modalit\u0103\u021bi de a extinde metroul, pentru c\u0103 este subteran, este rapid \u0219i de \u00eencredere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Jacob Hartamann poveste\u0219te despre proiectele implementate \u00een Copenhaga. Foto BdB<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Sim\u021bi\u021bi c\u0103 exist\u0103 un fel de nemul\u021bumire sau resentiment fa\u021b\u0103 de politicile verzi, mai ales cu privire la viteza de implementare? Pentru c\u0103 vedem ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u00een SUA, cu Trump \u0219i \u00eendemnul s\u0103u \u201eforeaz\u0103, foreaz\u0103\u201d pentru petrol. Iar \u00een Europa, ascensiunea na\u021bionalismului este cauzat\u0103 \u0219i de aceast\u0103 vitez\u0103, considerat\u0103 de unii exagerat\u0103, c\u0103tre o economie verde<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Crede\u021bi c\u0103 ora\u0219ele Europei vor p\u0103stra direc\u021bia c\u0103tre o economie mai ecologic\u0103 \u0219i o comunitate mai ecologic\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sper c\u0103 da. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Sper c\u0103 politicienii din Europa sunt suficient de educa\u021bi pentru a vedea c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 alternativ\u0103. Te \u00eentorci la petrol? E pur trumpism, trumpism stupid.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Asta \u00eei va costa bani pe americani \u0219i \u00eei va costa securitatea energetic\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 petrolul este o resurs\u0103 epuizabil\u0103 \u0219i ne \u00eendrept\u0103m \u00eentr-un singur sens, spre energie durabil\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sper, prin urmare, c\u0103 politicienii din Europa sunt suficient de inteligen\u021bi pentru a \u00een\u021belege c\u0103 viitorul este energia durabil\u0103<\/strong>. De fapt, Europa poate c\u00e2\u0219tiga un avans astfel, putem dezvolta o industrie verde, iar la finalul mandatului lui Trump, SUA vor fi \u00een urm\u0103 cu patru ani. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen Danemarca nu exist\u0103 nicio \u00eendoial\u0103 c\u0103 vom continua cu scenarii de energie verde. De fapt, la noi, toat\u0103 lumea se pl\u00e2nge c\u0103 mergem prea \u00eencet. Exist\u0103 o presiune pentru a face mai mult, cu siguran\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Care este rolul dumneavoastr\u0103 \u00een cadrul prim\u0103riei ora\u0219ului Copenhaga? Ce face\u021bi mai exact?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fac dou\u0103 lucruri de baz\u0103. Sprijin antreprenorii sociali, culturali \u0219i sustenabili care vin la Prim\u0103ria Copenhaga \u0219i au o idee bun\u0103 pe care doresc s\u0103 o \u00eencerce. \u00cei ajut s\u0103 \u00eencerce ideea \u0219i s\u0103 o implementeze \u00een ora\u0219. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Al doilea lucru pe care \u00eel fac este legat de implementarea m\u0103surilor de combatere a terorismului. Punem obstacole pe drumuri, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 nu po\u021bi trece cu ma\u0219ina. Le plas\u0103m \u00een locuri strategice. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Este aceasta o problem\u0103 mare \u00een Copenhaga \u00een acest moment?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu, dar o facem preventiv. Totu\u0219i, munca mea principal\u0103 este, desigur, s\u0103 \u00eei ajut pe ace\u0219ti mici… nu doar antreprenori, pot fi \u0219i persoane fizice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dac\u0103 oamenii vor s\u0103 se implice \u0219i vor s\u0103 creeze ceva, atunci treaba mea este s\u0103-i sus\u021bin.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i s\u0103 m\u0103 asigur c\u0103 orice vor s\u0103 construiasc\u0103 sau orice vor s\u0103 fac\u0103, s\u0103 o fac\u0103 \u00een locul potrivit \u0219i s\u0103 ob\u021bin\u0103 toate autoriza\u021biile necesare, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t proiectul s\u0103 fie aprobat de Prim\u0103ria Copenhaga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

C\u0103ci \u0219i la noi exist\u0103 o mul\u021bime de reguli. \u0218i avem o mul\u021bime de opinii despre unde s\u0103 facem, cum s\u0103 facem, c\u00e2nd s\u0103 facem. Dar \u00een loc s\u0103 spun nu, \u00eencerc s\u0103 spun \u201eda, hai s\u0103 facem\u201d. Sunt avocatul lor, sunt prietenul lor \u00een prim\u0103rie.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Jacob Hartamann este consilier principal \u00een cadrul Sharing Copenhagen, un program al Prim\u0103riei Copenhaga, care \u00ee\u0219i propune s\u0103 faciliteze co-crea\u021bia \u00eentre municipalitate \u0219i antreprenorii din domeniile cultur\u0103, societate \u0219i sustenabilitate.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jacob Hartmann faciliteaz\u0103 proiecte temporare distractive, practice, care creeaz\u0103 un \u201eora\u0219 viu, responsabil, cu avantaj\u201d. Proiecte precum un ad\u0103post natural plutitor \u00een port \u0219i un parc public creat de tineri \u00een programe de formare profesional\u0103. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Experien\u021ba sa anterioar\u0103 include 11 ani \u00een cadrul Greenpeace ca activist, strateg \u0219i lobbyist.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n

A\u021bi prezentat la \u00eent\u00e2lnirea dumneavoastr\u0103 cu publicului, din cadrul Nordic Festival, eveniment care s-a desf\u0103\u0219urat la Bucure\u0219ti, c\u00e2teva proiecte care sunt deja implementate \u00een Copenhaga. Toate sunt proiecte mici, a\u021bi declarat c\u0103 le pute\u021bi sus\u021bine doar cu c\u00e2te 3.000 de euro. Pot proiectele mici s\u0103 schimbe lumea, s\u0103 schimbe ora\u0219ul?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am o mul\u021bime de exemple \u00een care proiectele mici au devenit proiecte mai mari. Unul dintre exemplele pe care le-am dat a fost un proiect care a \u00eenceput… a \u00eenceput foarte mic cu un…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sauna din portul Copenhaga?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu. Ei bine, \u0219i \u0103sta… da, da. A \u00eenceput ca un prototip \u0219i dintr-o dat\u0103 toat\u0103 lumea \u00ee\u0219i dore\u0219te s\u0103 fac\u0103 la fel. Iar acum trebuie s\u0103 ne ocup\u0103m de noua situa\u021bie, cum s\u0103 le punem \u0219i unde s\u0103 le punem \u0219i c\u00e2te saune de acest fel s\u0103 avem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Interesant este c\u0103 motivul pentru care oamenii doresc sauna \u00een port este c\u0103 putem \u00eenota acolo. Portul este, de fapt, at\u00e2t de curat \u00eenc\u00e2t po\u021bi \u00eenota \u00een apa din zon\u0103. Lucr\u0103m de mul\u021bi ani pentru a opri toate devers\u0103rile \u00een port. \u0218i a fost un succes. Munc\u0103 politic\u0103 \u0219i de mediu grea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Acum portul este at\u00e2t de curat \u00eenc\u00e2t po\u021bi \u00eenota \u00een el. \u00cen mijlocul capitalei. Deci, acesta este un exemplu despre cum po\u021bi face mai mult.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Dar nu trebuie s\u0103 devin\u0103 super succes comercial, pentru c\u0103 to\u021bi ace\u0219ti oameni se educ\u0103 singuri. Deci, orice ar \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba acolo vor duce mai departe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apoi, la un moment dat, vor face \u0219i proiecte mai mari. Deci este ca o cre\u0219\u0103, o cre\u0219\u0103 de proiecte.<\/strong> Unii au o idee original\u0103, o \u00eencearc\u0103, continu\u0103, continu\u0103, continu\u0103 \u0219i dintr-o dat\u0103 se transform\u0103 \u00eentr-o companie \u00een toat\u0103 regula.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

De exemplu, avem o echip\u0103 care a cultivat midii \u00een port. Acum s-a extins nu doar la nivel na\u021bional, \u00een Danemarca, ci \u0219i \u00een \u021b\u0103rile nordice, educ\u00e2nd oamenii despre produc\u021bia alimentar\u0103 local\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu este o afacere pentru ei, pentru c\u0103 primesc granturi pentru a face treaba, dar ceea ce fac este c\u0103 educe genera\u021bia urm\u0103toare despre alimente curate, cultivate local, nu importate. Sunt cultivate \u00een ap\u0103. Apa trebuie s\u0103 fie curat\u0103 pentru a cre\u0219te midii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Putem spune c\u0103 punem funda\u021bia pentru a crea urm\u0103toarea genera\u021bie de tineri profesioni\u0219ti sustenabili.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Pic\u0103tur\u0103 cu pic\u0103tur\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Da. Modul meu de a crea dezvoltarea este proiect cu proiect. Cum m\u0103n\u00e2nci un elefant? \u00cel m\u0103n\u00e2nci mu\u0219c\u0103tur\u0103 cu mu\u0219c\u0103tur\u0103. Nu putem \u00eenghi\u021bi o bucat\u0103 mare din acel elefant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am putea face mai mult, categoric, dar la finalul zilei, este proiect cu proiect, pentru c\u0103 sunt oameni cu oameni care vor face acele proiecte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A\u021bi spus c\u0103 selec\u021bia proiectelor este foarte subiectiv\u0103. Cum decide\u021bi, totu\u0219i, ce se face \u0219i ce nu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu \u0219tiu. Intui\u021bie, dar asta sun\u0103 a magie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u0103 confrunta\u021bi \u0219i cu critici, presupun, pentru c\u0103 fiind subiectiv, cineva care este respins ar putea spune \u201eAh, ai avut un interes s\u0103 alegi pe altul…\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Am experimentat asta. Desigur, am argumente. De exemplu, a depus un proiect o companie. Patronul a vrut s\u0103 fac\u0103 un eveniment \u00een fa\u021ba companiei sale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i i-am spus: \u201eEi bine, e\u0219ti un actor comercial. Nu pot pl\u0103ti pentru ca tu s\u0103 faci acest eveniment \u00een fa\u021ba companiei tale. Pentru c\u0103 atunci ar \u00eensemna c\u0103 te sus\u021bin cu fonduri publice\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar dac\u0103 o organiza\u021bie vrea s\u0103 fac\u0103 ceva \u0219i nu c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 bani, este non-profit, atunci bine\u00een\u021beles c\u0103 o aleg pe aceasta \u00een schimb. Deci am argumentul perfect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen general, nu este o problem\u0103 real\u0103. \u00cen general, c\u00e2nd oamenii m\u0103 sun\u0103 \u0219i \u00eemi spun ideile lor, nu este mare \u0219tiin\u021b\u0103 la mijloc. Dac\u0103 cineva sugereaz\u0103 \u201es\u0103 facem un ad\u0103post plutitor, ca s\u0103 po\u021bi dormi \u00een port cu copiii t\u0103i, \u00een nop\u021bile de var\u0103\u201d, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc \u201eUau, de ce nu mi-a venit ideea asta?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

De ce nu am f\u0103cut asta noi \u00een\u0219ine? \u0218i le spun \u201eEi bine, pute\u021bi aplica. \u00cemi place ideea voastr\u0103, dar trebuie s\u0103 depune\u021bi un proiect \u0219i aproape c\u0103 pot s\u0103 v\u0103 promit c\u0103 va fi aprobat.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Este at\u00e2t de atr\u0103g\u0103tor. \u0218i apoi nu sunt doar eu, ci \u0219i \u0219eful meu \u0219i sistemul prin care trecem proiectele.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sunte\u021bi o interfa\u021b\u0103 \u00eentre municipalitate \u0219i societatea civil\u0103. C\u00e2t de deschis\u0103 este municipalitatea fa\u021b\u0103 de societatea civil\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Avem un plan mare chiar acum de a crea o cooperare \u0219i mai str\u00e2ns\u0103 cu cet\u0103\u021benii din Copenhaga. Aceasta este o sarcin\u0103 politic\u0103 care ne-a fost dat\u0103.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i este evident, are sens, desigur c\u0103 are sens. Aceasta este democra\u021bia. Este men\u021bionat \u00een politicile noastre c\u0103 vrem s\u0103 cooper\u0103m cu cet\u0103\u021benii. Exist\u0103, de asemenea, o mul\u021bime de directive UE care spun c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 implici \u0219i cet\u0103\u021benii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Din punct de vedere istoric, a\u0219a a fost, dar putem spune c\u0103 nu a func\u021bionat \u00een direc\u021bia corect\u0103. P\u00e2n\u0103 acum, ascultam cet\u0103\u021benii, dar dup\u0103 ce se luau toate deciziile. Locuitorii nu puteau schimba mare lucru, mutau ni\u0219te virgule. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Acum, \u00eencerc\u0103m s\u0103 dezvolt\u0103m noi moduri mai oneste de a colabora cu cet\u0103\u021benii. \u0218i asta este cumva ce fac eu. Fac proiecte cu cet\u0103\u021benii. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Angajamentul despre care vorbim aici este c\u0103 cet\u0103\u021benii se pot implica \u00een noi propuneri, noi moduri de organizare a ora\u0219ului nostru. Punem aici un drum, punem pist\u0103 de biciclete sau punem loc de parcare?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

C\u00e2nd facem planificarea pentru o zon\u0103, o propunem \u0219i apoi cerem informa\u021bii: \u201eSunte\u021bi sau nu de acord cu asta?\u201d Acest proces trebuie realizat \u00een cooperare cu cet\u0103\u021benii. \u0218i sper c\u0103 cet\u0103\u021benii vor avea mai mult\u0103 influen\u021b\u0103 \u00een acest proces.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ei locuiesc \u00een ora\u0219 \u0219i \u0219tiu despre propria lor zon\u0103 mai bine dec\u00e2t noi.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

C\u00e2t de mare este birocra\u021bia \u00een Danemarca \u0219i \u00een Copenhaga? Pentru c\u0103 avem aceast\u0103 imagine c\u0103 birocra\u021bia este sc\u0103zut\u0103 \u00een \u021b\u0103rile nordice. Este adev\u0103rat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Acum sunt la Bucure\u0219ti \u0219i aud pove\u0219ti \u0219i \u00eemi dau seama c\u0103 poate co\u0219marul meu din Copenhaga nu este la fel de mare ca \u0219i co\u0219marul vostru de aici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu, evident.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar, to\u021bi avem nivelurile noastre de birocra\u021bie. Simt, chiar \u0219i \u00een Danemarca, c\u0103 exist\u0103 o mi\u0219care c\u0103tre tot mai mult\u0103 reglementare. Totul trebuie s\u0103 fie astfel reglementat. Ceea ce puteam face acum 10 ani nu mai pot face ast\u0103zi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

De ce?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu \u0219tiu. Este fric\u0103. Frica de a pierde controlul sau teama de a nu respecta legea. \u0218i nici m\u0103car nu \u0219tii care este legea. Legea ar trebui s\u0103 \u00eensemne doar c\u0103 nu po\u021bi face nimic care s\u0103 d\u0103uneze altor oameni.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dac\u0103 nu faci r\u0103u celorlal\u021bi, atunci nu \u00eencalci nicio lege cu adev\u0103rat serioas\u0103. Nu sus\u021bin s\u0103 fii l\u0103sat s\u0103 faci orice, oriunde. Nu po\u021bi construi ad\u0103postul plutitor \u00een mijlocul drumului, pentru c\u0103 pe acolo merg ma\u0219inile. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dar, pentru a evita s\u0103 facem o gre\u0219eal\u0103 mic\u0103, sunt impuse o mie de reguli.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

\u0218i asta \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 iei \u0219i bunul sim\u021b, logica oamenilor. Nu \u0219tiu care este solu\u021bia, pentru c\u0103 bine\u00een\u021beles… totul a devenit at\u00e2t de microgestionat ast\u0103zi, eu de\u021bin asta, tu de\u021bii asta \u0219i \u00eentre cele dou\u0103 este o linie strict\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dac\u0103 te \u00eentorci cu 25 de ani \u00een timp, atunci aveam o infrastructur\u0103 mult mai comun\u0103. Danemarca este foarte puternic\u0103 \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te infrastructura de\u021binut\u0103 \u00een comun, drumurile, \u0219colile, spitalele.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Suntem exper\u021bi \u00een realizarea serviciilor comune de \u00eenalt\u0103 calitate pentru cet\u0103\u021benii no\u0219tri.<\/strong> \u0218i acum trebuie s\u0103 avem \u0219coli private, care s\u0103 primeasc\u0103 ni\u0219te bani de la guvern. Trebuie s\u0103 avem spitale private, care s\u0103 primeasc\u0103 bani de la guvern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Eu chiar cred c\u0103 aceasta este una dintre cele mai fantastice caracteristici ale Danemarcei, c\u0103 suntem at\u00e2t de buni s\u0103 ne organiz\u0103m \u0219i s\u0103 facem cooperative, \u00een care de\u021binem lucruri \u00eempreun\u0103 \u0219i facem lucruri \u00eempreun\u0103, \u0219i nimeni nu face bani.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Doar facem pragul de rentabilitate, ne acoperim cheltuielile. \u0218i acesta, pentru mine, este un principiu foarte intuitiv, c\u0103ci dac\u0103 nu exist\u0103 o mare corpora\u021bie care s\u0103 fac\u0103 bani nu trebuie s\u0103 sco\u021bi bani pentru asta. \u0218i atunci este mai ieftin pentru toat\u0103 lumea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So\u021bia mea lucreaz\u0103 ca chirurg la un spital danez. \u0218i \u0219tim ce calitate ofer\u0103 spitalul municipal, extraordinar\u0103. Dar nu va r\u0103m\u00e2ne a\u0219a, dac\u0103 scoatem bani pentru a-i oferi spitalului privat tot timpul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"copenhaga\"
Jacob Hartamann, despre unul dintre proiectele implementate: o sta\u021bie pentru autostopi\u0219ti. Foto: Bdb<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

CITE\u0218TE \u0218I: Cele mai apreciate filme nordice, la prima edi\u0163ie a Nordic Festival din Bucure\u015fti<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ave\u021bi o lung\u0103 experien\u021b\u0103 ca activist de mediu. A\u021bi lucrat cu Greenpeace. C\u00e2t de mult poate recicla un ora\u0219? Ce ar trebui s\u0103 fac\u0103 un ora\u0219 pentru a recicla mai mult?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oamenii cred c\u0103 Danemarca se pricepe la reciclare \u0219i nu este chiar adev\u0103rat. Suntem buni la incinerare. Suntem, de fapt, exper\u021bi \u00een arderea de\u0219eurilor noastre. A\u0219a c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd, \u00een urm\u0103 cu 20 de ani, f\u0103ceam campanie \u00eempotriva inciner\u0103rii, oamenii nu \u00een\u021belegeau de ce solicit oprirea acestei practici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Acum, societatea \u0219i-a dat seama c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 recicl\u0103m. Tot ce am spus acum 25 de ani este adev\u0103rat ast\u0103zi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Cel mai nou \u0219i cel mai bun lucru care s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat \u00een Danemarca este c\u0103 acum avem un regulament na\u021bional care cere ca fiecare cet\u0103\u021bean s\u0103 aib\u0103 10 frac\u021bii diferite de sortare a de\u0219eurilor, acas\u0103.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Toate cu aceea\u0219i tipologie. Aceea\u0219i poz\u0103 pentru de\u0219eurile biologice, aceea\u0219i poz\u0103 pentru sticl\u0103 sau plastic. Deci ai 10 frac\u021bii. Asigur\u0103m infrastructura de baz\u0103. Dac\u0103 dori\u021bi ca oamenii s\u0103 recicleze, trebuie s\u0103 pune\u021bi containerele c\u00e2t mai aproape de ei.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen Copenhaga, amplas\u0103m inclusiv sta\u021bii de reciclare \u00een apropiere, po\u021bi merge direct acolo cu de\u0219eurile mai mari \u0219i le po\u021bi pune \u00een frac\u021biile potrivite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mai mult, dac\u0103 mergi la acea sta\u021bie, po\u021bi lua o parte din de\u0219euri \u0219i le po\u021bi refolosi singur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar nu func\u021bioneaz\u0103 totul perfect. Sunt frustrat c\u0103 nu pot s\u0103 merg s\u0103 iau o pomp\u0103 pentru ma\u0219ina de sp\u0103lat rufe, pentru c\u0103 \u00eentotdeauna pompa de la ma\u0219ina de sp\u0103lat se stric\u0103. Dac\u0103 a\u0219 putea lua pompa aia ca pies\u0103 de schimb…, dar nu am voie, pentru c\u0103 este considerat\u0103 electrocasnic. \u0218i nu am voie s\u0103 o iau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exist\u0103, de asemenea, frac\u021bii de de\u0219euri periculoase, vopsea \u0219i chestii de genul \u0103sta. E pu\u021bin p\u0103cat pentru c\u0103… Dac\u0103 m\u0103 duc \u0219i iau ni\u0219te vopsea, o voi folosi doar pentru vopsit. Nu va deveni mai periculos din acest motiv.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar, oricum, dezvolt\u0103m \u0219i \u00eencerc\u0103m s\u0103 extindem reciclarea direct\u0103, pentru c\u0103 reciclarea nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 doar descompunerea \u0219i realizarea de produse noi, este \u0219i refolosirea imediat\u0103, pentru repara\u021bii, de exemplu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A\u0219a c\u0103 punem o mul\u021bime de mici sta\u021bii locale de reciclare \u00een jurul Copenhaga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exist\u0103 sanc\u021biuni dac\u0103 nu reciclezi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu exist\u0103. Dac\u0103 nu reciclezi corect, operatorul de salubritate poate da o notificare Prim\u0103riei Copenhaga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar nu am auzit de sanc\u021biuni pentru nesortare. Este o sarcin\u0103 mare s\u0103-i \u00eenv\u0103\u021b\u0103m pe oameni s\u0103 sorteze de\u0219eurile \u00een mod corect, dar nu avem o \u201epoli\u021bie a de\u0219eurilor<\/strong>\u201d. \u00cen schimb, avem ghizi \u00een ora\u0219, care \u00eendrum\u0103 at\u00e2t cet\u0103\u021benii, c\u00e2t \u0219i companiile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Le spun: \u201eEi bine, ave\u021bi aceste frac\u021bii \u0219i v\u0103 putem ajuta s\u0103 v\u0103 preg\u0103ti\u021bi de\u0219eurile \u00eentr-un mod mai bun\u201d. De fapt, sf\u0103tuim oamenii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A\u021bi men\u021bionat c\u0103 Bucure\u0219tiul are o mul\u021bime de cl\u0103diri frumoase, dar \u0219i o mul\u021bime de cl\u0103diri care au nevoie de renovare. Care este politica \u00een Copenhaga \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te renovarea patrimoniului \u0219i, de asemenea, conservarea caselor vechi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exist\u0103 o mi\u0219care \u00een sensul c\u0103 oamenii vor s\u0103 distrug\u0103 lucrurile vechi \u0219i s\u0103 construiasc\u0103 altele noi. Am reu\u0219it s\u0103 oprim pu\u021bin asta, prin dou\u0103 concepte: \u201eBevar<\/strong>\u201d sau \u201eforklar<\/strong>\u201d. Bevar \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201ep\u0103strez\u0103\u201d, forklar \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201eexplic\u0103\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Este ceva de genul \u201ep\u0103streaz\u0103 sau explic\u0103 de ce vrei s\u0103 d\u0103r\u00e2mi\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Modul implicit standard este de a p\u0103stra. Dac\u0103 nu dore\u0219ti s\u0103 face\u021bi asta, trebuie s\u0103 ne explici mai bine de ce nu vrei s\u0103 p\u0103strezi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00centreaga discu\u021bie despre demolarea cl\u0103dirilor sau renovarea lor devine… acum exist\u0103 o \u00een\u021belegere general\u0103 c\u0103 este mai bine din punct de vedere ecologic s\u0103 demolezi \u0219i s\u0103 construie\u0219ti cl\u0103diri noi, eficiente energetic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar trebuie s\u0103 \u00eencepem s\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la ce putem reutiliza.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pe de alt\u0103 parte, uneori este foarte costisitor s\u0103 renovezi \u00een loc s\u0103 construie\u0219ti de la zero. \u0218i atunci ar trebui s\u0103 spun, iar acum vorbe\u0219te profesionistul din mine, care activez de 30 de ani \u00een domeniului protec\u021biei mediului, nu ora\u0219ul Copenhaga, c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 nicio ini\u021biativ\u0103 de mediu care s\u0103 supravie\u021buiasc\u0103, s\u0103 prospere \u0219i s\u0103 creasc\u0103 dac\u0103 nu este mai bun\u0103 \u0219i mai ieftin\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nu voi cump\u0103ra un morcov bio, dac\u0103 este de zece ori mai scump \u0219i dac\u0103 nu are un gust mai bun. Dar dac\u0103 morcovul organic are un gust mult mai bun, iar pre\u021bul nu este o problem\u0103 real\u0103, atunci exist\u0103 o \u0219ans\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dac\u0103 renovarea este de dou\u0103 ori mai scump\u0103, nimeni nu pl\u0103te\u0219te doar pentru c\u0103 ob\u021bii o reducere de dioxid de carbon.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Mo\u0219tenire cultural\u0103, relevan\u021b\u0103 istoric\u0103, nu conteaz\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sigur, dar cine pune bani pentru asta? Cine pl\u0103te\u0219te pentru relevan\u021ba istoric\u0103? Po\u021bi iubi o cl\u0103dire \u0219i po\u021bi avea un sentiment despre asta. Dar nu este nimeni care s\u0103 achite nota de plat\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mo\u0219tenirea cultural\u0103 nu este suficient\u0103 pentru a r\u0103sp\u00e2ndi ideea c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 renov\u0103m \u00een loc s\u0103 construim nou. A\u0219a c\u0103 urm\u0103toarea provocare este cum s\u0103 faci mai ieftin\u0103 renovarea dec\u00e2t construirea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exist\u0103 unele mecanisme de cost pe care trebuie s\u0103 le schimb\u0103m, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t renovare s\u0103 fie \u00eentr-adev\u0103r modul standard de a face lucrurile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sau s\u0103 punem taxe mari. Dac\u0103 vrei s\u0103 distrugi aceast\u0103 cl\u0103dire frumoas\u0103, atunci trebuie s\u0103 pl\u0103te\u0219ti. <\/strong>Po\u021bi alege dac\u0103 pl\u0103te\u0219ti pentru distrugerea unei cl\u0103diri sau mai bine pl\u0103te\u0219ti ceva \u00een plus pentru renovare. \u0218i atunci poate c\u0103 avem echilibru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Azi, nu te oblig\u0103 nimeni s\u0103 pl\u0103te\u0219ti dac\u0103 vrei s\u0103 distrugi mo\u0219tenirea cultural\u0103. Deci avem un sistem economic neuniform, care favorizeaz\u0103 distrugerea, pentru c\u0103 este mai ieftin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dar cel mai ieftin lucru este \u0219i cel mai stupid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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At\u00e2ta timp c\u00e2t este mai ieftin s\u0103 m\u0103 urc \u00een ma\u0219ina mea pentru a conduce tot drumul p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een ora\u0219ul meu natal \u0219i a emite cantit\u0103\u021bi uria\u0219e de CO2, c\u0103ci trenul este de dou\u0103 ori mai scump, cum v\u0103 a\u0219tepta\u021bi ca trenul s\u0103 devin\u0103 alegerea popular\u0103?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Solu\u021bia durabil\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 fie cea mai ieftin\u0103 solu\u021bie. \u0218i dac\u0103 nu este, atunci trebuie s\u0103 schimb\u0103m taxele \u0219i sistemul fiscal.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Traficul consistent \u0219i neplanificat din Bucure\u0219ti, cl\u0103dirile sale mari \u0219i brutale, dar \u0219i \u00eenc\u0103lzirea excesiv\u0103 a spa\u021biilor interioare sunt primele lucruri pe care le-a observat Jacob Hartmann, consilier municipal \u00een Copenhaga \u0219i activist specializat \u00een dezvoltare durabil\u0103, atunci c\u00e2nd a ajuns \u00een Capitala Rom\u00e2niei. 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